Tuesday, September 2, 2008

SHALISH SHUDDIS (shalosh seudot, seudos shelisheet)

On Shabbos you are required to have 3 meals. Each one containing at least 2 loafs of bread we call them challa. The last meal has many different names each one derived from the same root. Some just deformed over the years into a new word which in reality means nothing.

Some people like to have there (I'll call it this way so as not to make people rack their brains trying to find out what I meant) 3rd meal in shul. In a shul it would have to be sponsored by some person on some rare occasion. People sponsor the 3rd meal for some of the most random reasons. Sponsored by so-and-so in Honor of him buying a pet dog or in the honor of the pet giving birth to another little thing. Some are little better at choosing what they sponsor it for. this 3rd meal will be sponsored by So-and-so in honor of his friend's, brother's, new son and then everyone goes MAZEL TOV, mazel tov, mazol tov, mazel tov and it fades away.

These 3rd meals in shul are usually made up of some sort of crackers that are never that good. Herring left over from the mornings kiddush or any other kind of fish. A little fresh cut melons (any kind) and one roll for yourself with nothing to go with it. The drink vareity is good with maybe a little of Dr. Brown. These are the 3rd meals that where the rabbi wants to sing he gets drowned out by everyone talking.

Then there are those that have the 3rd meal at home. I have heard of all these lets call them "inventive" ideas for the 3rd meal when its made at home. So some people have peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Others have chulent or left over gefilte fish. I once heard a mother talking to her son in a local midwood store about this issue of what to have for the 3rd meal, She suggested to have cereal and milk, I don't know how they do that with the issue of eating milk and meat within a 6 hour period.

Either way, you'll never feel like you had a full meal and it always seems like your missing something. What are your ways to feed yourselves at the 3rd meal or do you chicken out and not have one (a 3rd meal).

36 people gave their 2 cents:

Child Ish Behavior said...

We save the chulent till then so we got it good. Otherwise it's leftovers from the other meals.

frumcollegegirl said...

not everyone waits six hours. some wait three

Mikeinmidwood said...

Behaving like childs

isnt their a problem with reheting the chulent or you eat it cold?

Frum College going Girl

So what about the short winter shabbos.

Child Ish Behavior said...

nope we only have it then and take it off right then and there

Lion of Zion said...

"not everyone waits six hours. some wait three"

or 1

Moshe said...

I stopped coming to shul's suedat shlishi because of the bad food and horrible speeches. In our shul, it's sponsored in honor of a yorzeit or paid for from monthly fees. We have salads and challa rolls. I couldn't stand the salads anymore or listening to the horrible dvar torahs from the people sponsoring in honor of a yorzeit.

At home, leftover fish and salads, a couple new salads. Afterward, maybe some leftover meat.

G6 said...
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G6 said...

C'mon people!!!
Bagels, (cream cheese and other cheeses for us 3 hour people), Hummus, Lox, Deviled Eggs, Crudite, Tuna and all the left over salads from Shabbos.
And don't forget to invite friends over so you have a good leibedik singing crew....

The Babysitter said...

I never eat Shaloshudas but my father eats it at home, usually just a challah roll and something else.

I've had shaloshudas's sponsored for me, I guess because its the easiest meal to sponsor. Kiddishes are more expensive.

Mikeinmidwood said...

Moishy

Yes the devar torah for the 3rd meal is not as great as others and many a times have no basis.

g6

A whole meal with bagels and lox not to mention friends with great singing ability!!!! you guys must rock the 3rd meal. do you end shabbos late?

Babycity

So you chicken out.

The Babysitter said...

MikeInMidwood: not that I chicken out, I just don't like any of the "shalashudus" food.

Mikeinmidwood said...

Babycity

But if you headed over to g6 then you would have something.

The Babysitter said...

MikeInMidwood: I don't like G6's food. (No offense G6)

G6 said...

Mike: We rock *EVERY* meal, and no we don't go late, we end Shabbos right on time.
Babysitter: No offense taken... so come for lunch ;) {I've been known to craft my meals around the food preferences of my guests - as long as they eat...}

MAK said...

When I have by my friend CJ's it's usually, tuna, chips, left over g-fish, salads, and challah. If it's up to me, just when I'm home, some challah, and whatever random thing is left over from the meal, when I remember to eat third meal at all.

frumskeptic said...

I actually help set up shaloshseudos at shul. :-).

Usually they are sponsored in honor of Yartzeits.
We have a variety of sabra salads and we have eggsalad, tuna salad and herring.

If a sponser is generous, we get lox too. :-).

Always have challah rolls.

I like shalosh seudos!!

EndOfWorld said...

liked the fading away effect :)

Anyway, I tend to be very suspicious of any food served in shul, after I got food poisoning from an innocent looking shnitzel. The cholent is the only safe food, cause there's no way that any viruses or bacteria can survive THAT

frumcollegegirl said...

oh...during the short winter shabb we make sure to finish with enough time

The Babysitter said...

G6: yea lunch is better.

Lion of Zion said...

MOSHE:

"I couldn't stand the salads anymore or listening to the horrible dvar torahs from the people sponsoring in honor of a yorzeit."

the vast majority of pulpit rabbis can't give a decent dvar torah either. at least if it's stam a member giving it i don't have to feel bad talking through it.

Mikeinmidwood said...

I have been to some chassidish shuls for the 3rd meal. they turn off the lights and the rebbe makes a whole long speech in yiddish. The food is all I care about but there isnt anything great in fact they might just have rolls.

Moshe said...

Speaking of which, never, ever, ever go to Landaus Friday night. You'll be very unpleasantly surprised, I sure was.

Mikeinmidwood said...

Moishy

Thank you and I never have gone there friday night. can you explain why.

Moshe said...

We were going to our friends who live nearby so I thought to myself, usually, Mincha/Mariv is 15 minutes so Friday Mariv should be like 45 minutes or less. Big, big mistake. They were saying some stuff, then some more stuff, then they took a break for like 15 minutes. By the time they finished Mariv, an hour and a half passed!

Mikeinmidwood said...

Moshe

and this is a place to catch a quick minyan.

sporadicintelligence said...

When I was younger i though tShalosh Seudos only existed in the summer time, because that's when we had it. Big salads, rolls, dips, ice cream. Good stuff.

I realized late that shalosh seudos was around all year around and that my shul had shalosh seudos until after peasach, stopping, then starting again after succos, so father ate in shul, until they didn't serve and then we started in the house.

...so unless it's the summer, I ignore it.

mikeinmidwood said...

Sporadic intel

Ice Cream? ...!!!

frumhouse said...

In the summer we have a more elaborate milchig shalosh shuddis. However, in the winter, it's pretty sparse because we are still fleishig and don't want to extend our "fleishigness" until well into motzei shabbos. We usually throw together something light and quick and pareve (tuna fish or egg salad or peanut butter & jelly):).

In the summer, we don't usually have a melave malkah because we have just eaten shalosh shuddis and aren't hungry. In the winter when the nights are longer, we are hungry for dinner and usually have pizza or wacky mac or something a few hours after havdalah (when we are pareve again).

sporadicintelligence said...

ye, we are very calculating and made sure we finished in time to be able to eat ice cream...or we'd just wait...

Dina said...

Folks, you have not lived until you've sat through a shalosh seudos, mashing the food on your plate into an abstract design, while listening to a declamation beginning "My mother-in-law was born" and fetching up with a detailed description of the diseases suffered throughout her life my the unfortunate lady, overlaid by the two women next to you discussing infinite variations on the theme of olivier salad (Russian sort-of-potato salad) - Do you add Eggs, and How fine to dice the Pickles?

Dina said...

and that was "by the unfortunate lady" - oops

Moshe said...

I prefer when they talk about the person than when they try to say a dvar torah, which is usually an ill fitting mash up of torah.org, aish.com and whatever else is out there.

Mikeinmidwood said...

Moshe

Actually the worst is a devar torah trying to somehow relate to the person who sponsored.

Moshe said...

I was talking about the sponsors giving the dvar torah, that's the worst.
We had a psycho guy who went on and on for an hour about his history, then he attempted to say a dvar torah, then, for some reason, he started saying poetry. Towards the end, even the rabbi was trying to shut him up.

Moshe said...

And once at a melav malka, the honoree decided that he's also the guest speaker and decided to say a dvar torah. He was shut up pretty quickly. The funny part is that he doesn't actually know anything and doesn't come for shiurim.

s(b.) said...

I just realized that the reason tuna and egg salad are often served is 'cause they're pareve. I always just had a challah roll with margarine, when I was a kid, maybe some leftover gefilte fish. That's what I did the other week. Hey, Lion, do you actually know any Dutch Jews? My ancestors on one side lived in Holland at some point after they were expelled from Spain after the Inquisition, but I was raised a 3-hour yekke.